BUG Confirmed 1.04.17V - VOB stutter over network [ Edited ]

[dukefan]

 1.03.29 stutters as well.    3.49 is the only one that seems to work consistently.

[delta12]

I too have this issue (as does my brother-in-law who has the same product).  I simply cannot understand why this issue isn't a priority...this problem has existed for the last two, or more, firmware updates.

Isn't playing VOBs one of the core componments of WD TV Live?

Come on WD, get your act together.

Lee

[Scandy]

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delta12 wrote:

Isn't playing VOBs one of the core componments of WD TV Live?

Come on WD, get your act together.

Lee

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Yes, I am still seeing this problem too. I posted about it here:

http://community.wdc.com/t5/Firmware/Same-problems-persist-with-1-04-17/td-p/109462

I have to agree with you! Anything that calls itself a media player should be able to play a DVD (VOB files). I am very disappointed that virtually none of the many issues that were discussed in the large firmware threads (for 1.04.10) have been fixed.

[Nehptis]

Has anyone found a solution to the VOB stutter over wired network?  I've tried every combination of install and reset/restart that I could think of.

Having re-read the release notes, I think the focus of this update was only Internet plugins, keyboards and Playon (even though Playon fix was not stated in Release Notes).

Bill_S, as you can see from the many threads stating that core media file play functionality is broken on this device, I think some type of update as to the status of the next firmware is warranted.

[parnott100]

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Nehptis wrote:

Has anyone found a solution to the VOB stutter over wired network?  I've tried every combination of install and reset/restart that I could think of.

Having re-read the release notes, I think the focus of this update was only Internet plugins, keyboards and Playon (even though Playon fix was not stated in Release Notes).

Bill_S, as you can see from the many threads stating that core media file play functionality is broken on this device, I think some type of update as to the status of the next firmware is warranted.

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Yes. Go and read my previous posts in this thread.

[JimKnopf]

Well, at least it does not seem to be a general problem.

I'm using the component 576p YUV video output with digital audio (without HDMI). NAS is a synology 107+ connected via gigabit switch. Tried to reproduce the problem now several times with several original DVDs I encoded 1:1 using DVDShrink and DVDFab for these tests ... and I can't.

Perhaps. those having the problem should find out what are the common circumstances?

[RoofingGuy]

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JimKnopf wrote:Tried to reproduce the problem now several times with several original DVDs I encoded 1:1 using DVDShrink and DVDFab for these tests ... and I can't.

Perhaps. those having the problem should find out what are the common circumstances?

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I've been thinking it's a rip issue, as well.

Not one of the VIDEO_TS folders I've tested (or have made to test with) has had the issue that plagues so many.

Then I tried making a DVD from scratch using TMPGEnc Authoring Works 4.  The VIDEO_TS folder does have the stuttering playback that others report.

Anything built to DVD standards should be built to DVD standards, but it's looking like some encoders/rippers either add, or leave out, some information which confuses the WDTV even though that information doesn't truly affect playback.

So now, the question is, which is broken?  Encoders like ConvertX and TMPGEnc Authoring Works? Or the WDTV?  Since the WDTV will play DVDShrink- and DVDFab-ripped files.

It might be time to start reading .IFO files and see what's different between one that will play properly and one that won't.

[TonyPh12345]

I've taken a few ISOs created using DVDFab apart and they sometimes choke.   The source ISOs don't.  So, there's something specific to the FILE LAYOUT (might be a buffering thing) that it doesn't like, not the CONTENTS of the files.

[Scandy]

I use the latest version of DVDFab for all of my rips and I am having the VOB stuttering problem with files in the VIDEO_TS directory. I tried re-encoding using the exact same files from the VIDEO_TS directory (that have the stuttering problem) to ISO, and the ISO plays back fine. I have done this with 3 different movies. The VOBs stutter, but the ISO plays fine (same problem with 1.04.10).

I wrote this in a different thread:

If you select the VIDEO_TS folder, then select 'play' or 'enter', DVD menu navigation works, but the video stuttering and audio dropout problem is there, just like it was in the last release. However, if you press 'play' on the VIDEO_TS folder, then the video plays OK (no stuttering), but DVD navigation does not work at all (you can't select 'Menu' in the Options menu). So you can either have stuttering with full DVD navigation, or no stuttering but no DVD navigation. Neither one is acceptable!

Are those of you that don't see the stuttering able to have DVD navigation and no stuttering? Are you doing the same thing that I described in the previous paragraph?

EDIT: I should also mention that there is no stuttering at all when I downgrade to 1.03.49. BTW, I am using wireless.

[delta12]

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RoofingGuy wrote:

I've been thinking it's a rip issue, as well.

So now, the question is, which is broken?  Encoders like ConvertX and TMPGEnc Authoring Works? Or the WDTV?  Since the WDTV will play DVDShrink- and DVDFab-ripped files.

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Good thinking Batman!  :-)  ...If I'm honest, it didn't occur to me that this could be a rip issue.  Anyway, the point is, is that the media players didn't have this particular problem until the firmware was updated.

Anyway, you say "Since the WDTV will play DVDShrink- and DVDFab-ripped files.".

I have only ever used DVDFab to rip DVD's and I 'do' suffer from the stuttering .VOB over a network issue!  Are you saying that, in your case, the WDTV is playing DVDFab-ripped files successfully?  Or, are you saying that it isn't working?  Or, are you saying that it 'ought' to work?  ...sorry, I got lost!  :-)

Whatever the problem, I find it somewhat bizarre that...

a) This issue hasn't had a higher profile on the forums (ie. its had less an 20 posts),

b) This issue hasn't been dealt with as a matter of urgency.

Lee