wd tv live network dont work with mac os x 10.7 lion

[Elize]

No, nothing has changed. 

But as mentioned before, there's an update of Samba which works with Lion OS. Now, it's up to WD to support this feature in a new firmware. If everything goes as planned, then don't expect WD to do so, lol.

[brettg]

I bought a WD TV Live today, sure enough, sharing movies on my Macbook Pro with 10.7 did not work. 

Googled for a solution, surprised no one is offering this advice:

WD TV Live Streaming Media Player is unable to access media content shared by a Mac running OSX 10.7...

worked like a charm + no 3rd party apps needed.

but yeah, would be nice if this worked out of the box...

[TonyPh12345]

... that's because that advice is not applicable to the WDTV Live and Live+, only the WDTV Live SMP.

[Lupunus]

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So, WD is supposed to drop their use of Samba, which is industry standard, and write a whole new transfer protocol, that works with both Windows CIFS and Apple's botched protocol?

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SAMBA is not (and was never) a "industry standard" because SAMBA is nothing more than a reengineering of the proprietary Microsoft SMB protocol to have a work around for accessing Windows Shares.

Since Lion (OS X 10.7.) Apple wants not longer to license SAMBA as a workaround for a proprietary Microsoft Protocol, because every time MS make a slight change in the SMB-Protocol or authentication mechanism, all sharing stop to work and you have to wait for a new SAMBA version.

The stop of "DHCAST128" support and with that the changes in Netatalk (AFP) where communicated early enough to fix the WD Firmware.

Up to now only some Linux implementations refused to implement the actual authentication mechanism or to license the actual Netatalk for AFP support.

Nevertheless Apple's now own implementation of the SMB works well with Windows Shares on WinXP-SP3, Win7 or 2003/2008 Server and also with SAMBA 3.x shares.

The point is, that since SAMBA want to see a license fee for industry using of the new SAMBA release, WD refuse to license the actual SAMBA version.

So why should Apple be responsible for that? It's clearly on WD to renew the Firmware.

By the way, WD was able to roll out a new firmware for the My-Book hard disk series to support the new AFP/SMB version, so why not for the WD TV too?

Lupunus

[TonyPh12345]

Lupunus's description is "mostly" correct, but off target in a few places.

For one thing, SMB is not a proprietary protocol, nor is it MICROSOFT's.   SMB was created by IBM and a consortium of other corporations.  

CIFS is MICROSOFTS implementation of the SMB protocol.

SAMBA is the GPL Open-Source implementation of the SMB protocol.

SAMBA is *absolutely" a defacto industry standard.   

Microsoft hasn't made a change to the CIFS specification in quite a long time...  It's just that the Samba developers don't have a FULL implementation of the SMB / CIFS specification.

Samba Team moved SAMBA to the GPLV3 license in 2007.   This is *NOT* a recent change.   

[brettg]

oh yeah, didnt notice that. 

still, the advice worked...

[ASFx2600]

Has anyone from WD acknowledged that the current version of their firmware is broken with OS X 10.7 Lion, and have they mentioned when they plan on fixing this issue yet?

[Blizaine]

you can blame whoever you want.  the fact of the matter is that if WD doesn't update thier stuff to support Lion, they will loose customers.  I just bought four WD TV Live's (one for each TV) and was excited to use them until I got home found that it didn't work with Lion w/o loading the macports stuff.  So now I'm taking them back. I wonder how many others will end up doing the same thing.

[Rishad]

Hi brettg - thanks for finding that fix. Thing is, it didn't work for me when I tried to share my itunes music folder. 

When I got to the Terminal stage, I got 'Cannot retrieve onfo from host.: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Remote system error' and a couple of 'Bad file descriptor's thrown in for good measure.

What am I doing wrong? I'd appreciate any help...

[linerjoe]

I have now switched to a Boxes Box, where it works fine with Lion (and is basically a better box in every single way). WD has lost a customer due to their complete lack of support and fixes for the product.

Perhaps the newer products are better (I know the interface has improved), but it seems that WD would rather just release new hardware instead of helping their existing customers have a better experience.

I think WD is alright for drives, since they can manufacture them and then basically forget about the customer (besides defect, etc). I will still buy their drives. However, software doesn't seem to be their strong suit.

joe