Trust me! The world need a step by step tutorial on how to install all the nice Moviesheet on WD HUB [ Edited ]

[Douink]

Im surfing and surfing around the net for a "up to date" simple step by step tutorial, on ho to get moviesheet running on a western digital hub.

Its cool with a lot of themes supporting moviesheet. But 90% most delete the files again, because noting explaining how to use / install them and how to get started with it.

Maybe IM so unlucky not finding the right tutorial, but I see many people asking for help.

Pleas take at Break, and help us using all the smart cool looking moviesheet. I hope some one will past a cool skilled step by step tutorial. Also on how to setup thombgen to work on hub. Wive information needed to. So hope one or to will take the break and help me on a tutorials for all the noob link my self.

Also so sorry for my bad English. Hope you understand the point!

Also pleas keep the red line in this post. "How do we make it more easy to use moviesheet on at WD Live Hub"

[DeVicious]

i am working on one!

I had the exact same issue as you when i started a few months ago, the informations are there but all over the place, it took me a loooooooooooong time to get my things generated as intended, once you know it you wonder why it didn't work before. However with the final release of my theme in November there will be a PDF File with screenshots and and 3 languages, i hope other, more experienced users will contribute to that, so we all can put that somewhere on this forum and to our themes to make life easier for new members of the community.

[shadow_cruiser]

Every theme is different so you can't really have a universal tutorial as each tutorial is specific to it's theme. However, Tinwarble made an awesome tutorial here which works for most Live Hub themes. You can't get more straight forward than this.

Download:

http://www.mediafire.com/?qekoe94v9ydx3y6

Thread with Tutorial:

http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-TV-Live-Hub-Themes/Mojo-1-10-02-MS-Moviesheet-version/td-p/213476

[Douink]

Shadow_cruiser >

- This is not a "from the beginning" links you are posting.

- Mojo themes you are linking to binds you to only one Mojo moviesheet. Only if you like this one moviesheet. You can try installing the Mojo themes. And you still need the beginner help (somewhere on the net) to install the Mojo them.

Tinwarble Are doing a great job. And are a kind and helpful themer. All respect to him and the Mojo themes.

A tutorial need:

A mega zip/rar pack with

1. The tutorial firmware 2.07.17 (Problem with the last update)

2. The tutorial ThombGen

3. The tutorial Templates for ThombGen supporting Hub 2.07.17

4. The tutorial Themes supporting moviesheet. (not a single maybe for some a "don't like" one)

A PDF with all the info you need from the start. And step by step to a working moviesheet with not only one Templates/moviesheet support.

Info.

How to up/down grate firmware.

How to setup ThombGen options. Explaining the basic.

Were to install the moviesheet supported themes

Setting up the hub Setup > Interface Themes / Gallery view /  Slideshows Interval Time 5 min / Slideshows Transition Fade and so one.

Give hub drew letter and so one...........

So if someone more skilled than me want help. Im ready to make the complete tutorial supporting the most of the moviesheet variable to the hub.

Hope to se some hands in the air :-)

[Tinwarble]

Douink,

Well, as shadow_crusier said, each theme uses it's own settings for how Thumbgen needs to be setup, so it is really impratical to try to make a "one size fits all" tutorial.

And since some themes use different tricks to implement different aspects, you really can cover them all.

As for a tutorial on firmware, there already is one here:http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5860/~/how-to-roll-back-the-firmware-on-a-wd-tv-live...

And if you are refering to how to fix a firmware problem, that can't be done because every person finds different bugs with the firmware depending on how they use the HUB.

There are also already many different tutorials out there on how to set up thumbgen some of which can be found here:

http://www.wdtvlive.net/articles.php?c=18

These are not HUB specific, but will show you how to add templates and explain what different functions of Thumbgen are.

You should also check out the actual Thumbgen forum here: http://forum.wdlxtv.com/viewforum.php?f=25

[drizzt09]

as shadow cruiser mentioned. each theme has its own custom movie sheets.

You cant use any other moviesheet but the one provided with the theme.

Mojo has its TG MS template

Aeonish has its TG MS template

Devicious has its own TG MS template

each template ONLY works with that theme. no other template will work with that theme.

There are a fewer beginner themes that were made in the beginning that allow you to use almost any template [except the severe custom ones mentioned above]. there is a template pack that has tons of TG MS templates that can be used with these other themes.

[zamzickles]

As drizzt09 said:

as shadow cruiser mentioned. each theme has its own custom movie sheets.

You cant use any other moviesheet but the one provided with the theme.

Mojo has its TG MS template

Aeonish has its TG MS template

Devicious has its own TG MS template

each template ONLY works with that theme. no other template will work with that theme.

There are a fewer beginner themes that were made in the beginning that allow you to use almost any template [except the severe custom ones mentioned above]. there is a template pack that has tons of TG MS templates that can be used with these other themes.

If you only use a Hub, you do have other options. As Drizz said, way back in the past (maybe 9 months ago), Tinwarble and Extremedigital collaborated on a couple of themes. The ones I like and have used ever since was

ExtremeMix Coverflow 2.5 Tinwarble

ExtremeMix Trickle 2.5 Tinwarble

Along the way, a few things happened. One, WD added Games to the menu. TW extracted the necessary OSD and with a simple cut and paste, that was resolved. Two, WD again changed the firmware and only in the latest version they messed up the sizing of the covers on both the Coverflow and Trickle views. It's annoying, but for me it's not a deal breaker. People have put a great deal of time and effort making truly great Moviesheets. Hundreds of them in all kinds of formats and designs. As Drizz noted, the current crop of Themes doen't really support, what some of us consider Moviesheets.

The current crop of Themes are some really nice looking, artistic and functional replacements for Moki.They have taken away the work of maintaining your library and at the same time presenting a very functional user interface. I'm sure they will tell you how difficult it has been. Joey has given up on supporting WDs constant newly created bugs in his life long WIP. TW has been a tireless supporter of this board and the Themeing subject.

Before I ramble on any further, I mentioned the two Extememix 2.5 TW themes. They combine the orginal Moki simplicity, with excellent Gallery views, REAL full sheet Moviesheets, no need for PNG/JPG renaming and TW's flare for great presentation of your music library. Maybe I'm living in the moviesheet past, but I really wish someone with the knowledge and patience could do the necessary tweaking to bring "2.5" up to current standards.

Anyway, just my opinions and ramblings. Hope I didn't ruffle any feathers.

[DeVicious]

the problem when you are at absolute beginner stage is that there is always info for particular themes but this info requires some prior knowledge that is not provided or not easy to understand when terminology is used that is unfamilar to someone who is new.

At this point it doesn't matter what kind of movie sheets one is using when they don't even know where to put the theme. If you can explain the very basics and make it understandable in terms that anyone can relate to, you can explain thumbgen and such without using a specific theme. If you can make someone understand to make a movie sheets for the standard themes then you got a fundament  where you can explain this person how your particular theme works and not the other way around. In fact... when i posted my first crappy little design for my theme i posted that it was my intention to make it easy for people like me who don't have a clue and that it was my intention to make a documentation that people actually understand. We'll see if they will, lol.

[Douink]

Hi all and thanks for all you posting. Nice to see all the replies.

Extreamdigital have updated the megamix to 3.5 supporting firmwere 2.07.17

In one of he's post here, he say;

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Re: ExtremeMix_Mega_Hub_Theme_Pack_3.5

08-22-201103:08 AM

Hello CoolDude.......

My theme will work with any thumbgen template, that  how I design my themes.....

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And you are all saying that every theme have its own only working "build in" moviesheet!

Am I misunderstanding extremedigital total in this post? Can or can I not use any ThumbGen Template??

If so then its not possible for anyone  to use this nice list http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-TV-Live-Hub-Themes/Moviesheet-Theme-List/td-p/214008

Or are this list only for WD TV LIVE.

If extremedigital are making the themes work with any template. Why are all themeres not making that kind of themes.

are ExtremeMix the only themes supporting all the template. Then my tutorial will be build up around ExtremeMix.

Still hoping for some help.

"" I only want make people use your themes. After 3 days surfing I still don't have a 100% working moviesheet""

[Douink]

Hello CoolDude.......

My theme will work with any thumbgen template, that  how I design my themes.....

[Tinwarble]

Well, the biggest problem that I find is that a limited number of  people don't take the time to actually read everything that's in a tutorial.  It doesn't matter how detailed it is, they will just try to do things as quickly as possible and make mistakes, then blame it on not being able to understand a tutorial.

And I am not just talking about my tutorial, when I first started using TG for my older WDTVLive, I found out how to use TG by following one of the video tutorials posted on another forum.  And even though it seemed fairly clear to me (never having used it before and not knowing what a moviesheet was) there was always someone who complained that they didn't understand it and couldn't get it to work.

Now, I'm not saying my tutorial is perfect either, but I did do some testing by giving it to my better half, who is about as technical challenged as they come (I still have to show her how to attach pictures to an email).  However, she is very good at following directions, and she was able to configure TG perfectly following just my tutorial.

As for describing TG in a way that doesn't involve a particular theme, yes you can do this, and it has already been done in the links that I provided above.  But that does not guarantee that someone will understand what they are doing anymore than describing it for a particular theme if they don't have some technical know-how to begin with.  And frankly, it doesn't matter how detailed you describe how to do something, there is always going to be someone who comes along and doesn't understand.