match video framerate set to on causes reboot

[TonyPh12345]

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Hinkel wrote:

My TV can handle 1080i 50 Hz and 1080i 60 Hz at highest resolution. If I set up the WDTVLive to AUTO with Auto-Framerate, I get 720p 60 Hz in the menu. So long all is okay, because my TV only has a resolution of 1366 x 768.

But now with FW 1.08.17 I also get a reboot if I try to start a DVD folder (no ISO's, only the vob's and ifo's / bup's). My DVD's all have 50 Hz, because I'm in Germany. If AutoFramerate is disabled or video out is fixed to 50 Hz (no AUTO), it works.

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Hmmm.  That could be telling;  that's not a TV.   That's a computer monitor.

I know for certain that WD made some changes to the HDMI handshake code, becuase my TV now comes up at the correct resolution ALWAYS.  It never did before.

Anyone else having this issue using a PC monitor?   Or are others also using an actual TV monitor?

[schwurbel]

Hm, same here.

TV is 1366x768.

WDTV sets to 1280x720@60Hz.

MFR on* DVD-MENU on -> crash

MFR on* DVD-MENU off -> no crash

MFR off DVD-MENU on -> no crash

MFR off DVD-MENU off -> no crash

Tested with PAL-DVDs.

*The framerate isn't being changed though, so the TV stays at 60Hz during playback of PAL-ISOs.

[Hinkel]

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TonyPh12345 wrote:

Hmmm.  That could be telling;  that's not a TV.   That's a computer monitor.

I know for certain that WD made some changes to the HDMI handshake code, becuase my TV now comes up at the correct resolution ALWAYS.  It never did before.

Anyone else having this issue using a PC monitor?   Or are others also using an actual TV monitor?

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No, it is a TV. If it were a monitor, I had wrote this. This one is about 6 years old (2006).

[TonyPh12345]

Really?? I've never seen a TV with that resolution! But either way, that odd resolution may be a at what's going on.... Just looking for a common thread. Any others with this issue care to chime in? Please post make and model of your TV, too.

[Strider_Nemesis]

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TonyPh12345 wrote:
Really?? I've never seen a TV with that resolution! But either way, that odd resolution may be a at what's going on.... Just looking for a common thread. Any others with this issue care to chime in? Please post make and model of your TV, too.

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It is common for a "720p" TV to have a native resolution of 1366 x 768, but the TV should be able to handle 1280 x 720 without trouble. The 1366 x 768 should only kick in with devices that support it, like the XBOX 360, or if you connect a PC to your TV.

Knowing that this resolution is common, it may as well be the cause of this likewise common issue, as you pointed out.

[TonyPh12345]

Hmm. May be... None of my older 720p sets did that... I had three of 'em, all different brands. I would think a 768 native pixel resolution screen would look ugly, as everything would upscale to an odd resolution. . But any way, I'm just wondering if the new HDMI logic didn't consider those non-TV-like native resolutions in the EDID data from HDMI.

[Strider_Nemesis]

I know that it is common, because I've read the specs of many TV models in the past. I've also recommended a bunch of users to use an HDMI cable instead of component when connecting their XBOX 360 when their sets have that native resolution. Component only supports 720p; HDMI does support 768p. It does make a difference.

[schwurbel]

Why are you talking about an odd resolution? In my case, the WDTV is outputting in 720p@60Hz (shown in the info-screen of the TV), the upscaling is done by the TV (Samsung LE22B650).

[Strider_Nemesis]

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schwurbel wrote:

Why are you talking about an odd resolution? In my case, the WDTV is outputting in 720p@60Hz (shown in the info-screen of the TV), the upscaling is done by the TV (Samsung LE22B650).

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Because your TV's HDMI port will report to the SMP its native resolution, and the SMP may not know how to handle it in some instances. This is only a theory, of course.

[Hinkel]

You are confused? The problem is not the resolution. My problem is the auto frame detection, if a DVD has 50 Hz.

Then the player will say goodbye ;-) It plays fine, if I switch auto frame rate to OFF @ 720p 50Hz.

No, my TV (Samsung LE32R73BD) will not report it's native resolution (1366x768) over HDMI. And yes, this resolution many "HD-Ready" TV's have. It's not FULL-HD. There was a time, where 32'' TV didn't had a Full-HD-Panel.

But it can scale-down full hd to it's native res (1366x768).

1080i @ 50 or 60 Hz is maximum it can handle. Because it's native resolution is 1366x768 the best fitting is 720p and this the wdtvlive player choose. And yes, 1080p is too much for my little samsung.

Here is a short copy out of the manual:

Supported modes
            480i 480p 576i 576p 720p 1080i
50 Hz        X    O    X    O    O    O
60 Hz        X    O    X    X    O    O
Component    O    O    O    O    O    O